Wednesday, April 27, 2005

Myrna Blyth Kicks Katie Couric While She's Down. (Good!)

As I posted earlier this week, the NYTimes launched a surprising attack on one of their own, Katie Couric, and I mentioned the book "Spin Sisters" by Myrna Blyth. Today, Blyth piles on quite nicely to get some cherry "Neener! Neener!" jabs in:

We've all watched as Katie has grown richer, smugger, and more chic. But for years, Today's chipmunk-cheeked, Clinton-loving perkette sold women, the primary audience for the morning show's mélange of a little news and a lot of fluffy features, the notion that she is just like them: a harried working mom.

In her "I'm just like you" phase Katie used to give speeches to adoring audiences describing a typical day in her life. She would tell them, for example, that she was on the phone setting up a play-date for one of her daughters like an ordinary mom, when a staffer beeped her to tell her President Carter was on the line. "President Carter who just won the Nobel Prize? Okay, put him on." He was calling, she would confide, throwing all modesty to the winds, to thank her for all she had done for him over the years. Yep, just an ordinary mom with a $15-million-a-year paycheck, a Park Avenue co-op, a millionaire boyfriend, a high-priced personal trainer, and the power to control two prime hours of TV five mornings a week.


Yummy stuff. Dig in!

How Apple Could Kill Micro$oft

Caught The Buzz Report: Windows is weak: where's the alternative? over at C|NET.com and it discusses how the pending M$ "Longhorn" OS is shedding features and a reason for being.

She suggests that Apple could strike by porting their new Tiger OS over to the Intel platform - something that's quite possible since Tiger is built on UNIX and Apple uses Intel for their server products. So, why isn't the mighty Steve Jobs doing this? Because he's a greedy moron who'd rather have 2% of the market, selling his overpriced and underpowered computers to his Kool-Aid-chugging acolytes, that's why!!!

Read the article and count how many opportunities are being missed. Bashing Micro$oft is always in fashion, but part of why M$ is so dominant is because their competitors are self-defeating dopes! Bill Gates must laugh himself to sleep at night.

More Violent Hate Speech from Air America. (Must be Wednesday.)

Sure it's a DRUDGE REPORT FLASH, but that doesn't mean it's automatically untrue, despite the constant cries of pain from the liberals.

XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX WED APRIL 27, 2005 09:01:25 ET XXXXX

AIR AMERICA RADIO INVESTIGATED AFTER BUSH 'GUNSHOTS'

**Exclusive**

The red-hot rhetoric over Social Security on liberal talkradio network AIR AMERICA has caught the attention of the Secret Service, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

Government officials are reviewing a skit which aired on the network Monday evening -- a skit featuring an apparent gunshot warning to the president!

The announcer: "A spoiled child is telling us our Social Security isn't safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here's your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of 4 gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little bastard. [audio of gun being cocked]."

The audio production at the center of the controversy aired during opening minutes of The Randi Rhodes Show.

"What is with all the killing?" Rhodes said, laughing, after the clip aired.

"Even joking about shooting the president is a crime, let alone doing it on national radio... we are taking this very seriously," a government source explained.

Developing...


I spotted the above after catching Bryon York's item at The Corner:

The skit this week by Air America host Randi Rhodes featuring simulated gunshots fired at President Bush is at least the second time Rhodes has used her program to discuss the idea of killing the president.

On her May 10, 2004, Air America program, Rhodes compared Bush to Fredo Corleone, the weak son in the Godfather movies, who was, on his brother Michael's orders, taken on a fishing trip during which he was murdered with a gunshot to the head. "They are the Corleones," Rhodes said of the Bush family. "The Fredo of the family is the president of the United States, so why doesn't his father take him, or his brother, one of them, take him out for a little, uh, fishing? You know, let him say some Hail Marys, he loves God so much. Yeah, take him out, you know, 'Hail Mary, full of grace, God is with thee' -- POW!" Rhodes paused briefly before adding, "Works for me."


Will someone please remind me when it was that Rush Limbaugh ran a sketch calling for the assassination of Bill Clinton? Oh yeah, that's right....IT NEVER HAPPENED!!!!

Seething, unreasoning and violent rage is the sole animating emotion of the Left and from their screaming maniac DNC chair, Howard Dean, to the punks throwing pies and salad dressing, they feel that there is no restraint neccessary on their actions and if some unhinged nutjob hauls off and actually injures or kills a non-liberal, it's justifiable because liberals are GOOD and non-liberal-socialist-fascists are BAD, dontchaknow?

Liberalism is an ideology of hate, fear, tyranny and violence. Never forget it because they'll never admit it.

UPDATE: Tim Graham of the Media Research Council adds in a later Corner post, "the funniest part of that article was Janeane Garofalo insisting they would not be as nasty as right-wingers. "On the left traditionally, you've got a nicer type of person. You've got a person who is more willing to engage in conversations that have context and nuance."

Fantasizing about shooting the President in the head is "nicer" and has "nuance"?!? Jeez! And to think there was a time when I thought she was kinda cute and smart. Too bad the hate of liberalism claimed her soul, not that she cares. She's good with her peeps and that's what matters, right?

UPDATE: The days after this story blew up, Randi DID apologize, albeit with fingers crosssed and a demand that every Republican also apologize for ever saying anything in opposition to Democratic smears and fascism, so by being insincere, it doesn't count. She's still a hateful liar, but we knew that already.

Mark Scott R.I.P.

Heard this morning that Mark Scott had merged with the infinite. In the early-to-mid-Nineties, he was a host on WXYT, a local talk station that used to have a powerhouse lineup of local host surrounding the Rush Limbaugh broadcast period. He'd been off the air for wite some time because WXYT switched to an all-sports format, something that Detroit certainly has an oversupply of already. (We don't even have a local classical station, but three sports stations? Sure!) Fellow host David Newman moved over to WJR until he was silenced by a stroke that he never recovered from enough to return to the air - another damn shame, for he was an erudite and thoughtful host, something that most conservative talkers aren't. (Sometimes it's nice not to be yelled at, ya know?)

He was a hardcore libertarian and Second Amendment defender who gave much airtime to those who were anathema to the liberal Gestapo that controls the MSM and as a result had a big impact on my political enlightenment. Sometimes he strayed into Black Helicopter territory, but he wasn't faking it to be controversial. He believed what he said and encourage others to think and to "check your premises", something I can readily tell most liberals can't and won't do, lest they implode under the sheer weight of their own bullsh*t.

Check out the Detroit Free Press story as well as the comments of Lew Rockwell.



EXCELSIOR!!!!

Freedom, Responsibility ... and What? Social Security Reform — An Explanation

I originally caught this P.J. O'Rourke article in The Atlantic recently and meant to mention it, but got busy and didn't have a link to make it easy for you to check it out. (Sending web surfers to a bookstore is a bit tricky, ya know?) Well, the Cato Institute was kind enough to reprint it and I strongly recommend you check it out.

P.J.'s rep as a humorist obscures his ability to make what's promoted as being too arcane for mere mortals painfully simple to grasp by anyone. Bob Costas, on his "Later" show, pointed out the Rolling Stone piece P.J. wrote that explained the S&L scandal in simple terms. I've never bought the idea that people are too stupid to understand politics and the economy when they can manage fantasy football leagues and speak Klingon - the only thing stopping them from understanding the scam politicians are running on us is their own willful ignorance, with a dollop of fear of finding out what the scoundrels are up to.

The Social Security Trust Fund that's supposed to last us until 2042 — there isn't any money in it. There never was. Modern money, so-called "fiat money," is a government IOU. The government cannot create a trust fund by saving its own IOUs any more than I can create a trust fund by writing "I start getting money when I turn twenty-one" on a piece of paper. The Social Security Trust Fund is just such a piece of paper. Except it says, "I start getting money when I turn sixty-five — the government promises."

Consult American Indians for a further discussion of government promises.


Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. If you or I tried to run a pyramid scam like this, we'd go to prison. The government, however, is free to give us the Unlubed Fist® and then tell us we're ungrateful for not wanting a second helping of SOL.

Wake up before it's too late!!!

Demagoguery Unleashed and the Stupid Party is Incapable of Defending the Truth!

A lot of noise and lies coming on about Social Security reform from the Left who are refusing to discuss what they themselves called a "crisis", now claiming Dubya is lying by using the same adjective. They want the concept of private accounts to be taken off the table before they play ball, which means that they demand that you have NO CHOICE about what happens to your own money. More hypocrisy from the Party that claims it's all about choice? DUH!!!

Anyway, the badasses over at Powerline posted a wonderfully succinct item called "Demagoguery Unleashed" which points up the issue quite neatly and shows how the Big Lie tactics of the Left are likely to trump the befuddled and idiotic Stupid Party, thus condemning many to eternal poverty and dependance upon a government that views us as little more than cows to milk and sheep to shear and WE LIKE IT!!!

The Democrats put on a sad spectacle at the Capitol today, rallying their armies of the ignorant to oppose any reform in the Social Security system:



This really is demagoguery at its worst. Federal employees already have a private contribution plan. No member of Congress relies on Social Security for his or her retirement. I doubt whether any Democratic member of Congress really believes that Social Security reform would be a bad thing. But naked politics rules, and the Democrats are once again betting that the ill-informed will be a majority on this issue.

In a pitifully inadequate counterpoint to the Democrats' raucous, partisan demonstration, Secretary of the Treasury John Snow participated in "Teach Children to Save Day" by giving a talk on the importance of being thrifty to a fifth-grade class in the District:



Of course those children would be better off saving than hoping to someday receive government checks. But the Social Security program makes it impossible for many millions of Americans to save, by sucking up the 15% of their incomes that otherwise could be available for saving. By making saving impossible, it relegates millions of Americans to retirement on the dole, at the whim of Congress. This doesn't apply to wealthy or prosperous Americans, who save through 401(k) programs and other vehicles, and essentially ignore the Social Security system, but Social Security destroys the potential for a secure, independent retirement for many millions of blue collar and middle-income Americans. The Democratic Party's cynical exploitation of these people is one of the scandals of the current political era.


The Democrats are pure fascists to the core and are opposed to freedom for anyone but their chosen cronies, yet get away with pretending that they are anything but totalitarian thugs.

Who will stand up for the Truth and stand against them?

Certainly not the Stupid Party and their inarticulate figurehead Prez Dubya.

We are truly f*cked. Do you care? Didn't think so. Go watch the game. Oooooh, A-Rod hit three home runs! No problems....no problems at all....

Tuesday, April 26, 2005

HDTV: Beauty Is Skin-Deep

Check out Why Cameron Diaz Hates HDTV for a list of celebs who look better and worse in hi-def and then roll over to OnHD.TV's 10 Scariest Celebrities in HDTV for more gruesomeness, like:


2. Mary Tyler Moore
The veteran actress now looks like The Joker in Batman. If she pulled her face back any further, it would be behind her. Oh, Rob!


Harsh.

Katie Couric an Evil Witch? What's Next? The Pope's Catholic?!?

In a rare break with their fellow travellers, The New York Times spills the dirt as "'Today' Seeks Yesterday's Glory" and reveals that - - Katie Couric isn't America's Little Sweetheart.

For more than a decade Katie Couric has reigned as the Everywoman of morning television. NBC considered her so critical to restoring the pre-eminence of "Today" after the disaster known as Deborah Norville that in 2001 the network gave her a $60 million contract over four-and-a-half years to keep her from defecting. Inevitably, Ms. Couric's on-air persona changed, along with her appearance and pay scale. But lately her image has grown downright scary: America's girl next door has morphed into the mercurial diva down the hall. At the first sound of her peremptory voice and clickety stiletto heels, people dart behind doors and douse the lights.

But "Today" has turned her popularity into a Marxist-style cult of personality. The camera fixates on Ms. Couric's legs during interviews, she performs in innumerable skits and stunts, and her clowning is given center stage even during news events. "Today" hit a low point in July, when Saddam Hussein appeared in a Baghdad courtroom to hear the charges he will face when he goes to trial as a war criminal. All the networks interrupted their programming to show live images of Mr. Hussein - all except NBC. "Today" stayed on Ms. Couric swatting shuttlecocks with the United States Olympic badminton team.


My old girlfriend looked frighteningly like the perky Katie Couric when she cut her hair and in the days when I was possibly inclined to get up early enough to catch a morning news show, Katie was cute and all, but lately she's been your typical bitter, angry Manhattan limousine liberal harridan who parks her kids in the 87th St. Y day care (or wherever it is) and wears shoes priced out of the range of the "Sex In The City" pack, yet sneers at the American women of the Flyover nether regions for wanting to be able to stay home with their kids if only the brutal tax system didn't force them to work for Uncle Sam.

That Katie's a hypocritical twit is old news to anyone familiar with "Spin Sisters: How the Women of the Media Sell Unhappiness -- and Liberalism -- to the Women of America" by Myrna Blyth. Check it out.

Monday, April 25, 2005

Because Who Cares What the Little People Think Anyway?

Taking a break from her successful Zsa Zsa Gabor-impersonating business and her sideline polishing Bill Maher's knob, Arianna Huffington is launching a celebrity blog site which will provide a one-stop brainwashing outlet for people who can't think on their own and thus look to the famous for guidance, because God forbid anyone not officially approved to voice an opinion somehow gains the ability to disburse their views.

She has lined up more than 250 of what she calls "the most creative minds" in the country to write a group blog that will range over topics from politics and entertainment to sports and religion. It is essentially a nonstop virtual talk show that will be part of a Web site that will also serve up breaking news around the clock. It is to be introduced May 9.

Having prominent people join the blogosphere, Ms. Huffington said in an interview, "is an affirmation of its success and will only enrich and strengthen its impact on the national conversation." Among those signed up to contribute are Walter Cronkite, David Mamet, Nora Ephron, Warren Beatty, James Fallows, Vernon E. Jordan Jr., Maggie Gyllenhaal, Arthur M. Schlesinger Jr., Diane Keaton, Norman Mailer and Mortimer B. Zuckerman.


Yeah, right. Because we all have those moments when discussing the issues of the day and we suddenly realized that we don't know what Maggie Gyllenhaal has to say on the subject.

Sunday, April 24, 2005

Does Drew Barrymore Sh*t in the Woods?

Why, yes she does, according to Celebs Ignore Death, Poverty on MTV Enviro Series which details the great pride and joy multi-million celebs feel in watching simple peasants live in squalor and poverty and how they believe we should attempt to emulate these poor souls example.

Note that I said "we" and not "they" cuz the day Cameron and Drew give up their luxurious lives, famous boyfriends (Justin Timberlake and that drummer from The Strokes) and an instant two-way link with Paris Hilton will be the day after an asteroid has pounded the Earth into space rubble.

But, do as they say, not as they do until then, right?

The BBC Wants To Be CBS?

That's what it looks like as the BBC sends hecklers to bait a Conservative Party candidate. They claim that they're just doing a show about the history of political heckling, but they didn't wire up three hecklers and have them harass Tony Blair to provide some balance. Hmmmm?

Of course, wasn't it the BBC who had to fess up after driving a man to suicide that maybe Blair didn't fake up pre-war intelligence? Maybe they are fair and balanced, after all?

Friday, April 22, 2005

Cookie Monster Butt-Raped by Liberals!!!

(OK, that's a screaming yellow headline, but you aren't gonna skim by it without looking, are you?)

This went down a while ago, but Jonah Goldberg at National Review Online has a piece about the decision to have Cookie Monster from "Sesame Street" eat fewer cookies because the hand-wringing nannies of political correctness are concerned about American youth being tubby lardbutts, as if giving the brats Playstation 2 and Madden instead of a football and a directive to go outside and play had nothing to do with it. Here's the punchline:

In fact, that’s what makes this decision so hypocritical. Sesame Street normally drenches kids with “be true to yourself” pap and identity politics. In one episode, Elmo and Whoopi Goldberg (no relation) have a long talk about how they’d never want to give up, respectively, their skin or fur color because that would be changing who they are. Well, the hue of Elmo’s fur is less essential to his identity than Cookie Monster’s gluttony is to his. Rosita, the Hispanic Muppet, is often told not to be ashamed of her accent because that’s just a part of who she is. Maybe they should ditch it, in the name of good diction. Heck, maybe the kids in wheelchairs should get up and walk next season because we’re all in favor of kids being able to walk.

Go read it all.

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Thursday, April 21, 2005

NY Times Hypocrisy on the Death Penalty and Euthanasia.

Andy McCarthy notes on The Corner that the Times, well, let's just read it all...

It was only a month ago, during the Terri Schiavo controversy, that the New York Times, dubiously assuming Terri was in fact in a persistent vegetative state, was editorializing about how sensible it was for the Florida courts to have accepted the "testimony of her husband that [Terri] would have chosen to die rather than live indefinitely in such condition."

Now comes today's interesting report from the Times's Eric Lichtblau about Zacarias Moussaoui's apparent intention to plead guilty to participation in the 9/11 conspiracy. Such a plea could result in imposition of the death penalty. Upon noting that, in a letter to the court, Moussaoui has "asked to be sentenced to death," Lichtblau speculates: “One question likely to be raised by defense lawyers is whether Mr. Moussaoui's desire to be executed is, by itself, evidence that he may be mentally unfit.”

The Times, as ever, sports all the trendy, progressive pieties. It is in euthanasia’s “right to die” vanguard, but it is revolted by the death penalty, even for mass murderers.

So, follow the logic: Expression of the supposed choice to die, if purportedly made by an innocent but inconvenient person, based on “proof” of the most suspect nature, must at all costs be deferred to on the theory that it is a personal and thoughtful decision. To the contrary, expression of the choice to die by a guilty terrorist, proved indisputably in an unambiguous written assertion by the person himself, is actually evidence that the person is “mentally unfit” on the theory that, well, who in his right mind would make such a personal choice to die?

Got it?

Who said Terri would have been better off if she were a terrorist?


How many examples of liberal hatred of women and the weak and love for killers and thugs will it take before people wake up?

"What Liberals Want..."

...is the title of piece by Powerliner John Hinderaker discussing the insane fantasies of socialist Utopia to be created out of thin air by liberal judges and how the Left's jihad against Dubya's nominees has nothing to do with their being "extreme" and everything to do with remaking America via irrevocable judicial fiat. It just goes to show that for all their blather about democracy and empowering the people, liberals seek to rule by dictate and not democracy. The punchline of the article is...

The left makes no secret of its intentions where the Constitution is concerned. It wants to change it, in ways that have nothing to do with what the document actually says. It wants the Constitution to enshrine its own policy preferences--thus freeing it from the tiresome necessity of winning elections. And how will the Constitution be changed? Through a constitutional convention, or a vote of two-thirds of the state legislatures? Of course not. The whole problem, from the liberal perspective, is that they can't get democratically elected bodies to enact their agenda. As one of the Yale conference participants said: "We don't have much choice other than to believe deeply in the courts--where else do we turn?" The new, improved Constitution will come about through judicial re-interpretation. It only awaits, perhaps, the election of the next Democratic president.

IF THE IDEA OF A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to government-funded child care, "adequate" recreation, and $80,000 in cash seems outlandish, remember that these concepts are no more eccentric than the idea of a right to abortion was, prior to Roe v. Wade. As a law school exercise in 1972, my class was charged with trying to formulate an argument for a constitutional right to abortion. We were stumped. None of us could think of one. A few months later, the "right" to abortion was born.

So Republicans are right to put top priority on the president's ability to get a vote on his judicial nominations. Liberal interest groups have flatly declared their intention to filibuster any nominee to the Supreme Court whom they regard as conservative. The stakes couldn't be higher.


The reference to "$80,000 in cash" comes from a proposal that "Economic citizenship--stakeholder society in which every young adult gets a form of citizenship inheritance of $80,000, funded by a wealth tax . . ." That's right, the rich will be raped and kids will be handed enough money to buy a Porsche. If you saw the "Chappelle's Show" skit about what happens when blacks all get a billion dollars each for slavery reparations, you have a hint as to how ridiculous this idea is.

But it could happen. Scary. =O

Wednesday, April 20, 2005

So Much Love For Benny 16 From Those Tolerant Liberals!

Spotted over at The Kerry Spot were these calm, dispassionate musings about the new Pope:

Boy, It does sound like they are going to be installing "showers" and "ovens" at the Vatican.

I see people talking about the Rat Pope's homophobia, misogyny (did his doctoral thesis on St. Augustine!), intolerance, rigid hard-line attitudes, his almost blatant electioneering from the Vatican for Bush, his condemnation of other faiths and on and on and on and on.

Well, now it is time to turn attention to the Biblical admonitions against unclean menstruating women and a return to animal sacrifice.

The saddest part is that they only took 2 days to pick this guy. That means it was pretty unanimous. I can't wait to see what dark ages this takes us to.

Hail to the new Nazi Pope! Back to the Dark Ages!

Hile Pope Ratzinger .....no wonder so many people have left the catholic church....now they can try to strenthen their flock via 3rd world countries....

Well, that explainds the red, black and white robes......what a f***** up world....a Nazi Pope...

What can one expect from a filthy Nazi?

the catholic church has always trived on violence - any belief that it is a peaceful church is delusional.

This from a Nazi bastard wearing a dress - and no doubt with a past in child-molesting. Can we say projecting our sexual guilt on others, perhaps?

WHY WHY WHY anyone would belong to this Church is beyond me. Especially if you are gay OR a woman. It's almost like the gay Log Cabin Repubs. But worse.

The only way the Catholic Church will change is for people to wake up and see they are fools for following it or continuing to call themselves Catholic. Surely of the 60 million americans who do - only a handful actually follow it all to a T anyway. WAKE up SHEEPLE!

I guess he doesn't get called Holy Father - he'd prefer Mein Fuhrer.

Now that we have Pope Adolf 1, that should be more clear to everyone.

Maybe they're trying to incite the Religious War that every right winger has been waiting for for so long. The arrogance and insensitivity involved with putting a freak like this in charge of the kathlick church is sure to piss off a lot of people (Jews, WWII vets of all religions and nationalities). Perhaps someone will finally nuke vatican city after this brilliant move by 115 senile, out-of-touch old men (in dresses).


Yet, if you listen to Lefty Hate Speech Radio (formerly the Hate Speech Network, aka Air AmeriKKKa, in honor of Robert Byrd), all you'll hear is about how intolerant and hateful non-liberals are and how they're so much more enlightened because they're open to differing ideas and aren't rigidly dogmatic.

*cough*bullsh*t*cough*

Listening to the local LHSR hostess - name escapes me, but her claim to fame is losing to Barack Obama in a state rep race in IL (something she sounds bitter about the screw-job the Dem Party gave her, but she's being a team player about it) - she had some guy from one of those "progressive" Christian groups who was yelping about "Dominionism", the premise that Red State Jesus freaks were seeking to take over the government and establish a theocracy (another LHSR fright wig) here because they believe that they know God's will and how wrong that is and blah-blah-woof-woof.

I guess the bloodlust of the Left to rule us with the Iron Fist of a SECULAR THEOCRACY - a system of tyranny in which these self-annointed Man-Gods exert total control over the subjugated and demand that no gods, especially that capital-G "God", be put before them - is something different and not such a bad thing.

Maybe a Holy War would be a good thing. Kill 'em all and let God/Allah/Howard Dean sort 'em out. Hmmm....

Tuesday, April 19, 2005

Egads!!!

Jeez, I see it's been over a week since I last posted anything. Yeesh. I've been stockpiling articles to post when I got a chance and just looked and see that I've got a dozen growing fur at the moment. Yeesh, again.

Vatican Mosh Pits Deemed Lacking



You can almost hear Bono snickering.

Why the Liberals Can't Keep Air America From Spiraling In

Nothing new here to those no huffing Michael Moore's flatuence, but it's still good to get a reality check on the Hate Speech Network.

Becauase the local NPR outlet was doing a fundraising beg-a-thon, I cruised by the local HSN outlet and caught the Randi Rhodes Show. Jeez, this is the best they've got? Over several days, I heard her repeat the same one point - RepublicansareNazisTomDeLayFloridaMartinezBlahWoof - with a numbing repetitiveness that Sean Hannity can only dream of.

The basic message to her fellow travelers...er....listeners is [i]"We're smart! They're stupid!"[/i] Never heard a countering idea, just the mantra of self-determined superiority.

Bore. Ring.

The only reason conservatives haven't rendered liberalism dead is because they're being cock-blocked by the Stupid Party and their liberal hypocrisy. Losers.

Pope Benny 16!!!

Don't have much opinion one way or the other at this time about the new Vicar of Christ, but judging from the hysterical screams of fear and panic coming from the media, he must be a good choice. Good for the Church, that is. Stay tuned...